Should I take one cycle of gear(would be my first) or use insulin instead?Join DateMay 2010LocationBack in AfghanistanPosts21,863Join DateSep 2011Locationpost proelia praemiaPosts9,787I am a male, 145 lbs, 25 years old, 5'8", unsure of my body fat %. Although 2 months ago I was at 125 and was at 15% I believe.
I am trying to bulk right now to about 200lbs for aesthetics/confidence in my body.I've only been training for about 2 months and am feeling great. I'm basically trying to get to 200 as quick as possible (yes I know I will also gain quite a bit of fat). I'm pretty much tired of being small lol. To put into perspective I joined the Army when I was 102 lbs at age 18 =\
In Iraq I was eating about 5000 calories a day and put on 10lbs in 6 months(with gym training), then was forced to do run an extra 3 miles a day because the majority of my unit failed their run portion of their pt test. So I ended up losing that weight and had lost my will to continue training. I'm sure I made plenty of mistakes and was not as informed as I am now but yeah, I wanna get big.I decided that I will take one cycle of gear to help to reach my goal (been doing research of course and this forum has helped a lot) but was wondering if insulin would be a better choice? It seems cheaper, legal, and seems to do the job well. I'm in good health, have never been to the hospital for things other than being born/getting balls touched.
I'm a full time student so I'd MUCH rather pay $22 then whatever some yoked guy at the gym is gonna charge me for some test if the end result is about the same.
Oh and I have no insulin knowledge, just now heard that its common use among BBs. I would be doing lots of research on it before using it of course.
Thanks!
forget slin, it has its place but you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off that level yetJoin DateAug 2009Posts10,638read this, simple cycle is perfect and this has all you need to know
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
You don't need either. To be blunt: you're small and probably pudgy. If you reach 200lbs within several years, it's going to be mostly fat. And you don't need insulin or steroids to get fat. Stop looking for shortcuts and put a few years into building up size.
hahahahaha well good thing I asked.
You don't need either. To be blunt: you're small and probably pudgy. If you reach 200lbs within several years, it's going to be mostly fat. And you don't need insulin or steroids to get fat. Stop looking for shortcuts and put a few years into building up size.No thanks!Join DateMay 2010LocationBack in AfghanistanPosts21,863
no thanks..... what?putting in a few years?
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My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle start buy reading the link visit the nutrition section take your time educate yourself AND STAY AWAY FROM INSULIN don't fvck about with that and you should be training for about a good year at least before aasJoin DateNov 2013Posts33
Who is this moron? You think everyone that's big just juiced and put on big weight and gained strength?Build a base. Eat lots, clean food, train smart.
To the "Stop looking for shortcuts and put a few years into building up size."I'm on a steroid forum for a reason lol I made the decision to do one cycle and am trying to get educated. That decision isn't doing to change =\
Who is this moron? You think everyone that's big just juiced and put on big weight and gained strength?Join DateMar 2006LocationBlightyPosts10,316Build a base. Eat lots, clean food, train smart.
Can you quote where I said that sir? For the life of me my eyes don't see those letters. Plenty of big natural guys.
Trying to get educated but no so much that you are educated enough not to cycle.Post a pic up buddy, let's see this 2 months progress and tell us why 20lb gain over 2 months isn't sufficient?
Trying to get educated but no so much that you are educated enough not to cycle.Join DateJun 2012LocationUbiquitousPosts10,135Post a pic up buddy, let's see this 2 months progress and tell us why 20lb gain over 2 months isn't sufficient?
If I had confidence I wouldI'm not saying it's not sufficient. I feel a million times better than I used to in every way. I just want more you know? I have always had a really fast metabolism and had trouble gaining weight and now that I'm getting somewhere I'd just like to get more out of it. There are a million reasons not to cycle, and I doubt there's a good reason to cycle if you're not stepping on stage (diseases/injuries/etc aside) but that's the decision I've made.
You're looking for a magic pill. There aren't any. Learn how to eat and train. Two months of training is nothing. Educate you we will, but not about taking drugs you are no where near ready for. We don't condone reckless decisions. You'll need to train and learn to eat and be committed to the lifestyle for two years to be ready for steroids .Join DateJun 2012LocationUbiquitousPosts10,135It may not be what you want to hear, but it IS what you NEED to hear.
How many calories are you eating every day, CONSISTENTLY? What's your TDEE? What's the macro break down of your diet? What are your protein sources?Join DateMar 2006LocationBlightyPosts10,316Steroids won't make you grow if you don't have the nutrition behind it. You grow from food. Plain and simple. If you aren't eating above your TDEE no steroid in the world is going to help.
If I had confidence I wouldLet's be honest, you have been training 2 months. That isn't anywhere near long enough to give your muscles or connective tissues the strength they would need to deal with such a rapid rise of strength from AAS. You are almost guarantee do an injury.
2 months ago you were at 15%. You gained 20lbs. Almost all of that will be fat but let's say just 15lbs of it is. That would put you well above 20%. You want to get to 200lbs as quock as possible then just keep going as you are, shouldn't take more than 4 months or so. Of course, you'll be well above 30% but that's not a problem, right? Add AAS to that mix and you are asking for a boatload of side effects.
Learn to train properly.
Learn to diet properly and gain muscle rather than fat. 150lbs at 10% will look waaaaaay better than 200lbs and a fat 30% bodyfat blob.
You guys seem to misunderstand. The topic was steroids or insulin lol.Join DateJun 2012LocationUbiquitousPosts10,135
The decision has been made and that's not changing. I am in a caloric surplus.When I need diet help I'll be sure to post a thread. Thanks
Join DateMar 2006LocationBlightyPosts10,316Originally Posted by styxxxola You guys seem to misunderstand. The topic was steroids or insulin lol.
The decision has been made and that's not changing. I am in a caloric surplus.When I need diet help I'll be sure to post a thread. Thanks
We understand all to well. We see this stuff all day long junior. The fact you aren't growing tells us you don't know how to eat. Stop arguing with people who live this lifestyle. Did you come here to learn or just argue?
Good luck then buddy. Post a pic when you're 30% and at your goal weight.
We understand all to well. We see this stuff all day long junior. The fact you aren't growing tells us you don't know how to eat. Stop arguing with people who live this lifestyle. Did you come here to learn or just argue?Did you not read any of my messages? I gained 20 pounds in the last 2 months. Which is why I'm going forth with juice. Also I came here to get a question answered; It was answered and I gave my thanks. I'm unsure where you see arguing.You may not post new threadsYou may not post repliesYou may not post attachmentsYou may not edit your postsForum Rules
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