stronger..

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Need some advice. I'm sick of doin 4 ccs of test e a week to get my 1000 .. pip is getting to b redic.. what to do? Need stronger then a 250 e?

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To cut pip cut with stierle oil or B12.

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To cut pip cut with stierle oil or B12.Been using a hair dryer or boiled n hot water to lessen the pip but still doesn't work to well when I'm injecting 4 ccs a week lol ill try the b12 or a stronger e. Thanks brother

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Bro if you use a higher mg will only make pip worse.You just have a high BA content in your test.This is wat is causing the pip not the volume.

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Aight. B12 it is. ThAnks a lot man. Email me, have a question for u

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If to much BA is added to gear could you "vent" it by using a large syrine gauge or emptying the oil out, heating it and refiltering and vialing? in short can you evaporate BA out of gear?

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If to much BA is added to gear could you "vent" it by using a large syrine gauge or emptying the oil out, heating it and refiltering and vialing? in short can you evaporate BA out of gear?The boiling point of BA is 205?C / 401?F. You would probably destroy the TestE at that high a temp.

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The boiling point of BA is 205?C / 401?F. You would probably destroy the TestE at that high a temp.I just messaged u steve

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The boiling point of BA is 205?C / 401?F. You would probably destroy the TestE at that high a temp.I dont think you have to boil alcohol to evaporate it. kinda like none of the water that makes clouds ever reached boiling. I think if you just left it open then it would evaporate out and then refilter and put in vials.

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I dont think you have to boil alcohol to evaporate it. kinda like none of the water that makes clouds ever reached boiling. I think if you just left it open then it would evaporate out and then refilter and put in vials.I don't know the answer to that, neither would I recommend leaving gear out exposed to the air. A more simple approach would be to add sterile oil guaranteeing that you reduce the concentration of BA in the total volume. Or as suggested above cut with B12.

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I don't know the answer to that, neither would I recommend leaving gear out exposed to the air. A more simple approach would be to add sterile oil guaranteeing that you reduce the concentration of BA in the total volume. Or as suggested above cut with B12.if you add oil you're lowering the mg of gear per mL. and considering 2%BA is okay and say 3% is noticably different as far as PIP then thats a lot of oil to lower the BA by 1%

and as far as it being exposed to air thats why you would refilter it

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if you add oil you're lowering the mg of gear per mL. and considering 2%BA is okay and say 3% is noticably different as far as PIP then thats a lot of oil to lower the BA by 1%

and as far as it being exposed to air thats why you would refilter it

What about water in the air or other contaminants, Its really not a good idea and in my 12 years experience of home brewing I have never heard anything like it. Adding sterile oil is a lot safer and works 100%

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literally to decrease the amount of BA by 2%, say from 4% to 2% you would need to add the entire amount of total gear, in mL of oil. aka say you have 2 vials of test 250, you would end up with 4 vials of test 125. So unless you want to inject twice the amount of gear then that doesn't make sense to me. And as far as water and other contaminants im not sure what you're talking about. You're exposing the gear to the exact same environment as when you make any other home brew..

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literally to decrease the amount of BA by 2%, say from 4% to 2% you would need to add the entire amount of total gear, in mL of oil. aka say you have 2 vials of test 250, you would end up with 4 vials of test 125. So unless you want to inject twice the amount of gear then that doesn't make sense to me. And as far as water and other contaminants im not sure what you're talking about. You're exposing the gear to the exact same environment as when you make any other home brew..So? twice as much oil zero pain is better than being cramped up for a few days. Also when you make gear you do not leave it for hours exposed to the air and dust and other crap floating around the air, Not to mention in my opinion I don't think your idea would even work at all.

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If you're getting significant PIP from test E (especially at standard concentration), it is because your gear is crap. Find a better source.

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what lab are you using? i cant see how the pip is so bad at that mg/ml if it was brewed with traditional method

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what lab are you using? i cant see how the pip is so bad at that mg/ml if it was brewed with traditional methodMessage me & ill tell u the lab

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Sorry off topic...

 

But what happened to ***************.com???

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S4 during cycle.

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In the description of S4 it is compared to dbol . Does this mean that it can be used to kick start a cycle or are sarms not good for during cycle use.

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Wierd things happening late into first cycle of test.C..

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Hi guys, firstly i would like to of course say hello to everyone..
This is how it started, i used to be an average guy, blah blah shit happened bad things and ended up dropping test levels through depression, 2 months ago i was at a terrible point, eating hardly any more than 1500 Cals a day if lucky and weighing only 9.6 stone at the age of 20 (Nearly 21) -being 5'11" and had absolutely no apatite or motivation, couldn't lift at the gym due to feeling so lethargic, tried everything but nothing seemed to work.

So, although i know its not recommended im too young and everything, but to me, nothing in the slightest would work, i started training but couldn't lift due to having no strength or motivation, i wasn't building any muscle because of having no motivation or strength and a poor diet, so it was a vicious circle, i decided to try a different approach, with the thought being, if you never try something you wont know, now i know Ive totally ruined chances of natural size gains because of using so young, but please, i have made the decision, to improve my quality of life (Which by the way was pretty awful, always ill ect) and for that i have no regrets, so would appreciate support and not telling me to stop for being too young, thanks in advanced guys!

So here it is, i started with some Test Cypionate (Cypionax 200ml-200MG), which is from someone in the family, i know its 100% Legit, as he gets them himself on holiday and uses..
After getting over my phobia of needles, i actually started to enjoy injecting, so i went for 100MG Test Cyp 3 times a week (Mon-Wed-Fri) and a 100MG of Deca on the Sunday (I have dropped after 3 weeks after realizing it would be totally wasted on a first cycle).
The results for myself were great, not gains, but life! I instantly felt revitalized after only 4-5 days the best in about 3 years, sleep improved, mood improved, sex drive improved, confidence, you name it it was there, it allowed me to actually eat without being sick and with that i redesigned my diet, consisting of as much protein i could get through at work, 5 smaller meals with lots of carbs and any protein i could find, 2 weight gainer shakes a day, and 2 Pints of full fat milk (Bulking as much as poss).
(At week 3 when i dropped the Deca, i decided to up the Test to 1.33ML (Mon-Wed-Fri) so it would be roughly just under 400MG a week).

Now this worked brilliant at first, everything about me improved, training, diet, calorie intake, i went up by over a stone within 5 weeks, and almost all seemed solid, no flab, no gut, just pure muscle and all my forearms and shoulders ect started hardening like mad, got to just over 11 Stone, really chuffed, and then i got the flu..

I had to spend 1 week off work and training, had no appetite even shakes that should have been my food were being sicked up, nothing worked, yet i remained 11 Stone.
I have now been on the Test for 7 weeks nearly, and am totally bamboozled, after the illness, my training has been awful, i have no energy at all in the gym, in fact i have started falling asleep at work in the day, leaning over counters ect, (Still getting 8 hours sleep a night) my diet i am struggling with, has dropped down again and im stuggling to put much over 2300 Cals a day in, if i start pushing that then i start throwing up or at least struggle to keep it all down, my weight has not budged of course from the 11 stone, yet once again, vicious circle, i have no energy to train, no appetite and so i will not grow, but the weird thing is i actually feel worse than before my cycle, at first it helped me no end! I'm literally stuck, and its been nearly 2 weeks now since no gains, my head hurts, i have to drink gallons of water a day, im constantly in a foul mood, not even irritable like the test made me at first, i cant stand anything but silence, anyone wants to even talk and i just want to get up and go, the sight or thought of food makes me feel sick, im falling asleep in the day, its total madness.

All Ive heard about from day 1 is Test.C is long ester, you wont feel max effect until till week 5-6-7, but when you do, its unreal, weights get light, you can put more food away, you'll feel amazing, trust me you'll know..
Yet i feel awful and im nearly on week 7, im stuck were i am, im starting to increase weight on my bars slowly again and it gives me little boosts, but they don't last?

I'm not using anything but the test ATM, not too sure what PCT will be using, have Nolva and Clomid to hand but every single person advises different so im unsure, tried to get HCG from day 1 but struggled, might be able to get some to throw in the last few weeks of the cycle to try bring things back to life if you get me..
So far no bad side effects, Gyno ect, i have been congratulated by older AS users i know for handling the moods ect so well, and they think its down to smaller consistent doses, so ill keep that up..
Hell the only way i can tell im on cycle is the constant sex thoughts (not much more than normal hahah) and the spots developing all over my shoulders, that really is the only way you can tell!

Sorry to write a whole book and biography but i really would appreciate peoples opinions on the extreme plummet of progress, lack of motivation ect and why im not feeling this famous "Kick" still after all this time, when the gear is 100% Legit! and i wanted everyone to know and understand the whole story before i asked, so i didn't seem like a silly young chav that just comes on knowing nothing and sprouting shit about lack of 200lbs gains in 2 weeks init..

If anyone could kindly make any suggestions, i would really appreciate it.
Thanks and hope you all had a good Christmas, Sam.

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Dam bro lets keep it short and too the point.Novels put me too sleep LOL

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Hahahah sorry bro will do from now on, but being young i had to explain the whole situation or people would just jump on saying your too young, inexperienced ect..
Only one way to get experience, so id rather just practice things as safely as i can and see how i go, only running for 12 weeks anyway, which is why any advice on the latest madness would be appreciated, can be short and sweet!

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How is anything you've done make you believe it's safe? Did you ever think to get blood work prior to embarking on a horribly designed cycle at 20 years old? Everyone thinks you can just start taking test and all your problems go away, when in fact you just bring in more problems.

The fact you never got blood work, you're injecting a long ester 3x per week, you added 100mg of Deca once a week, for what reason I have no idea and you're not using an AI just shows that you didn't do your research.

I don't understand why so many young people think it's ok to experiment with their hormones just to gain experience and then they wonder why their 20's are miserable, filled with problems.

Your e2 is most likely elevated, you need to stop what you're doing, get on a PCT and get blood work soon after.

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I agree with what your saying, but its hard when everyone you speak to says different things!
No i did not have blood work done, due to not having any idea about were to safely get it done that i could trust, ect!
However i was told by my doctor when i was signed off work, that while checking my blood thoroughly my test levels did seem quite low for my age, but admittedly that was about 6 months ago!

With regards to both the lack of AI, and the Deca for the first few weeks, was because before i knew you could find all this on the internet, i was taking the advice of bodybuilders who have competed in competitions for years, a few actually hold records, who seemed to tell me all this was the best way to go about it, obviously when i found all this info on the web it made me unsure which is why i posted to here in the first place!

The long ester 3 X a week, was simply because since i split to 3 a week instead of 2, surely the T levels will be more consistent, and i have been finding that i get little or no sides since, but am of course open to your suggestions!

Because to me it wasn't just experimenting, it helped with so many issues that nothing else did, we've all started out somewhere once, and im sure lots of people on here started younger than me, im not saying its right, but its true!

Is there no way i can save it this far in? I'm not going against what your saying just curious if i can do anything to stop the last 7 weeks of work being wasted!

Thanks for your advice anyway, Sam

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Kalpa still G2G??

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Hey, I was running sciroxx, and was very strong stuff, loved it, but now I'm thinking switch over Kalpa... why??
Because sciroxx can't supply me the whole cycle, and I found a source who has everything I need for the cycle. But he only has Kalpa so I was searching for some more info and I found out it seems its G2G but gives some strong PIP even enanthate . for my experience, PIP is always a bad sign, if its normal dosed Enanthate ester, it should not give any PIP. I saw photos on their main page, and the lab seems to be veery professional, but who know if its true... can someone update me about their products? do they still come in ugly brown vials? I always hated brown vials.
thanks

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I used Kalpa with my last cycle. I did get some PIP but I was using Test Prop so that's to be expected. I had pretty decent results with their Prop. I didn't feel anything from their Var though and wouldn't buy that again.

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thanks pete,... I'm interrested in their test enanthate tren enanthate and masteron enanthate... why enanthate?? because of the low PIP and higher concentration (less pins) and almost better value and better plasma peak. Also interested in dianabol , clenbuterol , T3 and aromasin . the prices are veeery good in comparision with sciroxx. wonder if quality is at the same level

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Have you run Tren before??? If not then go with Tren Ace because it will only stay in your system for a few days so if you're having sides and you have to abort they will only last a few days vs. a few weeks. My next go with tren I will prob. do Tren E as the sides I got from Tren on this current cycle were very minimal. The only real issue I've had is that I'm def. more moody on Tren and a bit angry.

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New to the forum and need cycle advise

 

Hi everyone, just wanted to introduce myself and ask about a cycle that I want to start(it is my first steroid cycle). I'm 22, currently 160lbs and 5'11, with a body fat of around 12%. I want to start with a Test prop Stack, 1-100mg shot every other day

On cycle
Armindex .25mg every other day

Pct
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Let me know what you think, I've been researching a lot. Thanks

Also wanted to add that it is going to be an 8 week cycle,

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what are your goals and what do you eat in a typical day? your light for your height which tells me your diet may be lacking

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You need to build a foundation naturally because at your stats your a long way away from cycling IMHO. Your to young for shutting down your natural t and also your way to light. Its obvious you need to concentrate on your diet and training routine because your not doing either right. Research diets and learn hoe to really stimulate muscle tissue so it grows, give this another 2 yrs and see how much you have done naturally n consider taking some thing but this isn't the right time no matter who tells you it is

I want to get to around 180lbs. I eat about 2000 calories a day and am on a low carb diet to try and cut up . I also eat very clean, no snacks just fruits and vegetables aside from main meals that mostly consist of high protein low fat and low carbs. I do work out almost everyday so I'm always burning a lot of calories. And Thanks man I really appreciate the quick response!

I've worked out for the past 4 years almost everyday and I consider myself to be at a plateau that I can't get over. My current bench max is 250 and have been stuck here for months. Maybe because I only weight 160 and can't gain anymore weight is the reason for me plateauing. I have talked to several bodybuilders at the gym and this cycle is what they suggested.

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You need to eat to gain. Low carbs isn't the way forward. Add 500-1000cals a day. If you don't eat, you won't grow, AAS or not.

Read theses

***Cycles going wrong for the young***

The young and Steroids

And then visit our nutrition forum and read this

***Dieting 101: Lean Bulking***

And start a thread in that forum with your plan.

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Your plateau is self indused bro.Your diet is way out of wack.Aas isn't your answer for reasons Marcus discussed.Hit the diet section post your diet with macros.These guys will show you how to pack it on the safe way.Good luck!

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I've worked out for the past 4 years almost everyday and I consider myself to be at a plateau that I can't get over. My current bench max is 250 and have been stuck here for months. Maybe because I only weight 160 and can't gain anymore weight is the reason for me plateauing. I have talked to several bodybuilders at the gym and this cycle is what they suggested.Like I've said you aren't training hard enough or eating to gain. Concentrate on these two areas for the next 2 yrs and what ever you do don't shut down your natural test

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A-sin or A-sin/nolva for dbol gyno prevention

Sup guys, quick question. Had shoulder surgery two months ago and will be starting a cycle in approx. 2 more months when I'm back to 100%. My question... Cycle laid out at the moment is as follows.

Wk 1-10: sus250 / 1ml(250mg) e3.5d
wk 1-4: dbol 25mg ED
Wk 1-4: Aromasin 25mg ED
Wk 5-10: Aromasin 12.mg ED (adjusting if neccessary)

PCT starting 18 days after last sus250 pin
Nolva: 40/20/20/20
Clomid: 75/50/50/50

Now for my question...
Assuming my bodyfat is ~10% when I start my cycle, do you guys think 25mg of Aromasin will be sufficient at keeping gyno symptoms at bay or would it be wise to add 20mg of nolva ontop of the aromasin for the 4 weeks of dbol. I've had non-AAS induced gyno that I had removed surgically, however I believe that I need a revision as not enough tissue was taken out, so if I do get a gyno flare-up on cycle it wont be the end of the world as more than likely I'm getting a second surgery. I will say this is my first cycle, and I understand the general rule of thumb is to run with test only, however I've seen many recommend, even those on this site, that adding an oral such as dbol at a lower dose is acceptable for a first cycle as well as long as you understand the risks associated with each compound and how to prevent side effects. I've been researching AAS and everything that goes hand in hand with it for about 2 years now so I'm very well versed on PCT, AAS profiles, and on cycle preventative measures. Also my diet is solid as I write everything I eat down into a journal as well as weigh out all of my food and record the macros of each meal/snack. I also have all of my ancillaries purchased and sitting in a lockbox waiting for the day. I have not gotten the dbol yet as I'm still on the fence with it. I do, however, already have the sus250.

Specs
Age:23
Years training: 3
Ht/Wt: 6' 200lbs
BF: ~15% (BF will be under 10% by the time I start)

I also understand that you should wait til 25 to start AAS, and I've thought long and hard about this, however the gym is the only thing I have going for me and the only thing I care about so I've decided to take my training to the next level a bit earlier than recommended and I'm fully aware of the risks associated with such a decision. I should also note that I had my first fitness modeling photo shoot set up for October 2013, however I tore my labrum and was unable to make that happen so it was rescheduled for this upcoming spring. I am also not a typical gym rat, training is not a hobby for me, it is my life and my only passion. Thanks for taking the time to read this, it is quite long haha. Appreciate any feedback that is given, and I hope everyone is having an awesome holiday.

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Steroids for Swimming

Hi I'm a competitive swimmer(sprinter)
I'm looking for steroids with NO weight gains
Only strength and power
decided to run Var and Halo

Wk. 1-4. Halo 20mg ED (with liv-52 and milk thistle) for liver protection
Wk. 5-8. Var. 40mg ED

will it be a gd cycle for what I'm lookin for???
No water retention explosive power etc...
Also what best PCT FOR keeping the srength gains
Any suggestion on the cycle guys
Thnks

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I'm side prone, new cycle?

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Hey guys I've ran a test E/deca cycle with 30 day clomid 50mg following recently and had pretty bad acne for a side and a little kill on libido. That was more than 6 months ago and I'm currently on accutane to fight off the acne and 1/2 way through the course.

Now I'm looking to stock up on gear for a new cycle as for I'm going to compete in mens physique this August. However I never want to have acne to that extent again , mostly back/chest.

I've been reading steroid profiles, talking with suppliers , reading a lot of forums, research , research! I'm considering a test prop and var cycle with a AI and possibly DHT blocker , hopefully to take the acne to the least amount possible. I'm considering 100-125 of test P EOD x 12 weeks, 50 mg var ED x 10 weeks, .50mg AI EOD. I've also read that blocking DHT especially with var could also help with keeping acne down.

What are your thoughts? I'm most concerned with acne being a side. That's why I'm considering var because it's so mild. I'm a former Marine and my wife is in the Air Force and leaving for 7 months so libido is not an issue if I don't have any. Thanks !

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how high did you run your test.

also clomid gives me acne like crazy. my guess is it came from that

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I only ran test E at 350 and deca at 250, hopefull to keep sides down . However I read way back that I shoulda ran test higher .

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I only ran test E at 350 and deca at 250, hopefull to keep sides down . However I read way back that I shoulda ran test higher .Why do you think that?

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I'm catching on to some sarcasm! Lol , I was being dumb and staying low because I know I'm acne prone. I was just uneducated due to my own ignorance. But now I've done lots if research . If I'm correct I should of ran the deca at 250 and kept to test at 500. However , that time is over. What do you think about the cycle above? Use of AI or DHT blocker like fina? With the test and var doseage?

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I'm catching on to some sarcasm! Lol , I was being dumb and staying low because I know I'm acne prone. I was just uneducated due to my own ignorance. But now I've done lots if research . If I'm correct I should of ran the deca at 250 and kept to test at 500. However , that time is over. What do you think about the cycle above? Use of AI or DHT blocker like fina? With the test and var doseage?Managing your e2 will help a lot. Deca converts to e2 as well as test. I dont think your prev. cycle was terrible but maybe you not using an ai causes the acne.

Try reading austinites acne protocol usong over the counter

Vit b5 (pantothenic acid)
Zinc

>good luck<
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injecting timing

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i want to know when to inject the steroid injection at what time of the day e.g (if i am taking test e twice a week like one monday and another on thursday i want to when to inject these injections at what time of day
early in the morning,mid of the day,before workout,after workout etc when i need help from u guys when to take injection

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Try make it opposites, for example- if Monday night was jab 1, jab 2 would be best on Friday morning.
I prefer to split into 3 a week but that's just working for me better for preventing mood swings ect

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OP dont overcomplicate things for yourself, few hours wont make any difference at end of day

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Hi guys! I was wondering if this site took the place of

 

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3rd injection

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So as the title states on my third one I chose my right glute as my previous two were in my right and left quad which went well a lil painful but to be expected right? Back to the glute how in the fvck does anyone do that by themselves I felt like Houdini trying to inject that and I had a lil stream of blood afterwards? Yes i aspirated. Could I just rotate between quads? And maybe shoulders? Only test e for now been a week oh an abombs to start. So far no sides other than killin the weights.

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pct for teste

Hey,
My mate is giving me some s4,
Would it be good to run it with my clomid pct??

My cycle is test e 500mg/wk btw.

current pct is
clom 100/100/50/50
Daa
abnd s4? 50mg a day

Or should I just start the s4 after pct?

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New guy here just sayin Merry Christmas yall...

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New member, just wanted to wish everbody a Merry Christmas and hopefully a kick A$$ cheat meal tomorrow...

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Workout advice

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Hi,guys i need a bit of advice for my workout routine.first i was training only 4 days a week but now for this week i moved to train 5 days a week.
First workout chart when i was training 4 days a week.
1.chest and triceps
2.back and biceps
3.rest
4.shoulder and abs
5.legs and calves
6.rest
7.rest
but from this week i start train 5 days a week and my workout chart like this
1.chest and calves
2.back and abs
3.arms (biceps and triceps)
4.shoulder and calves
5.legs and abs
6.rest
7.rest
years in training 2.5 years
body status
75 kg body weight with 12 % body fat
i want to should i do my new wokout routine which is for 5 days a week or stick to my old workout routine which is better for me please help

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thabks for closing the thread and not giving me a chance to respond

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I didn't buy from them, first of all I'm in aus if it has the words steroids there's no chance and I did read it and know it was not roids, but I read posts where people had bought var10 thinking its anavar , or dbol , I'm just saying that these people mislead others buy there advertising and its not as bad as dangerouds product but they are still deceitful,

Thanks every one for your smart ass coments,

If everyone one here is so high and mighty and so good they would put up threads to warn people that they should watch put for this false advertising, so atleast people have the knowledge, then if they chose to buy alternatives atleaat they know and are not fooled into it.

And the guy who said about capatalism its all about making money doesn't matter if you fool people into it.

And I'm not like all of you who don't care if people get cheat just because it wasn't you and you were so smart to avoid being deceited, that's why I'm having my "spout".

Would it kill youse to try and look out for people, or are youse only here to educate people on how to take tours safely but do not give a **** that they get raurted in the process.

Thanks

to the idiot who said i cant read-
this is about speaking out for those who have been or might be cheated in the future so go fuk yourself

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im not "high and mighty".....yet

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I've been high. Does that count?

I think OP is mad. Lol

There are plenty of threads on this topic already. As explained, the topic has been beaten to death. All OP had to do was use the SEARCH function and would have found all he needed to know.

Wow, someone is exaggerating the benefits of a vitamin supplement and misleading consumers. Wow, that's NEVER happened before has it? Oh wait, walk into ANY damn vitamin store and look at the false claims on product labels.

Stop crying over split milk and getting upset that someone ripped you off while trying to buy illegal drugs.

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I've been high. Does that count?

I think OP is mad. Lol

There are plenty of threads on this topic already. As explained, the topic has been beaten to death. All OP had to do was use the SEARCH function and would have found all he needed to know.

Wow, someone is exaggerating the benefits of a vitamin supplement and misleading consumers. Wow, that's NEVER happened before has it? Oh wait, walk into ANY damn vitamin store and look at the false claims on product labels.

Stop crying over split milk and getting upset that someone ripped you off while trying to buy illegal drugs.

idiot i havent bought any thing from them. and being a steroid forum you should know that people are looking for steroids and even though they are illegal dosnt mean theyr not good if you use them properly, if that werent tru you wouldnt all be on here talking about how to use them and what to use. so they mislead people coming on here new to the forum.

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I thought that was the real deal. Made me huge though.

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Originally Posted by donwan
idiot i havent bought any thing from them. and being a steroid forum you should know that people are looking for steroids and even though they are illegal dosnt mean theyr not good if you use them properly, if that werent tru you wouldnt all be on here talking about how to use them and what to use. so they mislead people coming on here new to the forum.You're in the minority. Good thing for you we don't have a mandatory IQ test, you would have screen failed the entrance process.

Do you have anything useful to add or are you going to carry on like a child who doesn't get his way? Did Santa leave you a lump of coal? Is that what's got you in a mood?

Thread was locked. How about you throw your temper tantrum elsewhere before you are asked to leave.

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so because im stating the obvious about this sponsers i have a low IQ? lol ok, maybe im just not like all of you who have been around for a while dont give a shit if people get dooped. and who is being the child with your remarks.

and i have the right to express my self, but oh wait because its about the sponsors i cant! coz im in the way of them making money from ripping people off. ooooh sorrryyy.

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Have you looked at their web site? It clearly states that the items sold are NOT steroids and that they are an ALTERNATIVE. people buy shyt all day, everyday without reading the "fine print".

Using names "similar" to steroid names on alternative supplements is brilliant marketing. They are in no way representing their supplements as actual steroids.

By the way...this is MUCH MORE than a steroid board and many come here for information on diet, training HRT and life in general.

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Have you looked at their web site? It clearly states that the items sold are NOT steroids and that they are an ALTERNATIVE. people buy shyt all day, everyday without reading the "fine print".

Using names "similar" to steroid names on alternative supplements is brilliant marketing. They are in no way representing their supplements as actual steroids.

By the way...this is MUCH MORE than a steroid board and many come here for information on diet, training HRT and life in general.

exactly. if this place only discussed anabolics, then it would have lost my interest long ago. for me, there is the 40+ section, the hrt section, plus the standard stuff like nutrition and exercise. in fact we have a fairly extensive peptide section too, one of the best out there, besides the one that just specializes in peptides.

additionally, there are many vets and knowledgable members that will accept PM's and give you extensive/detailed advice that is customized for you and your needs (balanced with safety, of course)

you get all that and more, for the low low monthly membership fee of.....

...hey Gixx, what are we charging now per month?

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when I first joined some guy pm d me and told me it was 100 dollars a month and to send him a money gram or id get kicked off, and iv been paying him for a couple years now

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when I first joined some guy pm d me and told me it was 100 dollars a month and to send him a money gram or id get kicked off, and iv been paying him for a couple years nowdamn! i only charge $10/mo

and i almost forgot.

Austinite, you still haven't sent me that $10 check yet?
...is the check still in the mail?

lol ok, maybe im just not like all of you who have been around for a while dont give a shit if people get dooped. .I don't even have 10 posts on this forum and I had no problem finding supplies and gear. I found that before I got to this forum though. Your idiotic mistake was coming on this forum empty-handed trying to find gear and then when you couldn't, you started whining about it. You obviously don't even have the mental capacity to even get on the gear in the first place and if you give up that easily before you start complaining then you probably have no determination in the gym either. Think outside of your little box. I can hear your muffled cries from here.

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Ah come on guys, don't be so harsh on OP.. He's just a kid, went to a candy store on Christmas Eve and found shite.

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Originally Posted by AliYousaf Ah come on guys, don't be so harsh on OP.. He's just a kid, went to a candy store on Christmas Eve and found shite.

Sent from my iPhone.

He got his lump of coal. Lol

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Only a idiot would think they were steroids ,

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uncommon problem with estrogen levels

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hey guys been a long time.

I was in a very bad situation of depression last year and some things happened to me physically.

I had very high prolactin all the time because of stress, now that it has gone down a massive hormone imbalance took place in my body.

as you might know, or not, prolactin is actually an aromatase inhibitor of sorts, my estrogen at the time when my prolactin was a bit high was actually on the lower limit of the normal like 25 or so on a scale of 7-42, my testosterone was high it was 1039 ng/dl on a scale of 280-800.

now that my prolactin actually went down my estrogen suddenly shot up a lot, i felt estrogen symptoms so i checked my blood levels immediately, itchy nips, small testis, no libido etc...i also began to take 100 mg of clomid to block and keep the estrogen from shutting me down until the aromatase levels return to normal after the rebound, i took my blood levels and they came back estrogen was 66 on a scale of 7-42 and my testosterone 922 ng/dl on a scale of 280-800.

I am lost as to what should i do since my estrogen are not going down easily and its taking a lot of time, i thought of taking aromasin as a suicidal because i do not want the rebound but i cannot find any around here at all, i have arimidex though.

conclusion is, my testis is still small and soft, my sex drive sucks, energy levels suck, mood sucks too and i feel like on a hormonal rollarcoster.

what do you guys suggest please help.

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hey guys been a long time.

I was in a very bad situation of depression last year and some things happened to me physically.

I had very high prolactin all the time because of stress, now that it has gone down a massive hormone imbalance took place in my body.

as you might know, or not, prolactin is actually an aromatase inhibitor of sorts, my estrogen at the time when my prolactin was a bit high was actually on the lower limit of the normal like 25 or so on a scale of 7-42, my testosterone was high it was 1039 ng/dl on a scale of 280-800.

now that my prolactin actually went down my estrogen suddenly shot up a lot, i felt estrogen symptoms so i checked my blood levels immediately, itchy nips, small testis, no libido etc...i also began to take 100 mg of clomid to block and keep the estrogen from shutting me down until the aromatase levels return to normal after the rebound, i took my blood levels and they came back estrogen was 66 on a scale of 7-42 and my testosterone 922 ng/dl on a scale of 280-800.

I am lost as to what should i do since my estrogen are not going down easily and its taking a lot of time, i thought of taking aromasin as a suicidal because i do not want the rebound but i cannot find any around here at all, i have arimidex though.

conclusion is, my testis is still small and soft, my sex drive sucks, energy levels suck, mood sucks too and i feel like on a hormonal rollarcoster.

what do you guys suggest please help.

bump for this guys i really need some help here.

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Have you seen a doctor yet? MRI?

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Have you seen a doctor yet? MRI?Yes, everything is clear i did an mri, the doctor said that it will balance itself out eventually, but its taking too long thats why i am trying to find a way to regulate it somewhat and ease up the transition. any thoughts?

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Yes, everything is clear i did an mri, the doctor said that it will balance itself out eventually, but its taking too long thats why i am trying to find a way to regulate it somewhat and ease up the transition. any thoughts?What are your stats? Age and bf% and cycle history?

Can you also post your lab results?

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Decent doctors or endos in Brisbane Australia

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Would anyone be able to suggest a good doctor or endo in the Brisbane region that knows what there doing when it comes to TRT.
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16 year old first cycle results

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Yes you need to aspirate!

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For those who say they never aspirate . I always have and today had blood rush into the syringe. ( my first time ever ) This was during a calf injection. It did freak me out slightly. I just withdrew the syringe and injected elsewhere. I don't like to think of what possibly would have happened had I injected into a blood vessel. At minimal the dreaded cough.
Always aspirate!

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why are you injecting in your calves for? just curious?

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Just an alternative injection site. I find them really easy if the amount is small. This was .5ml ( 150mg test E )

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Thank god you didn't inject. You prolly woulda died.

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Thank god you didn't inject. You prolly woulda died.From .5ml? Not likely.

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I injected roughly 2ml into a vessel once. Heart started racing, I got clammy, started sweating, short of breath, coughing fit. Thought I was having a heart attack. Not pleasant at all. I always aspirate now. I see no reason not to. It only takes a second and can spare you a very unpleasant experience.

I do not have any data on oil injections and death but I believe it would take a lot more than 0.5ml to kill someone. You never know though. There are cases of people dying during a tonsillectomy. Statistics say that is a minor procedure and won't kill you either.

Why mess with it. Just aspirate.

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Originally Posted by Java Man I injected roughly 2ml into a vessel once. Heart started racing, I got clammy, started sweating, short of breath, coughing fit. Thought I was having a heart attack. Not pleasant at all. I always aspirate now. I see no reason not to. It only takes a second and can spare you a very unpleasant experience.

I do not have any data on oil injections and death but I believe it would take a lot more than 0.5ml to kill someone. You never know though. There are cases of people dying during a tonsillectomy. Statistics say that is a minor procedure and won't kill you either.

Why mess with it. Just aspirate.

.....you left out the part where your skin turned green!

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I've drawn blood once, doc told me if I ever pull in blood trash the injection and start over. I didn't, I figured it's my blood anyway. I aspirate on SQ too.

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16 year old first cycle results (PICS before and after)

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No he did not. Steroids at 16 is the worst thing he could have done. Your supporting it is even worse.
We do not allow underage participants on the forum.

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biggest dude I've seen in a while....

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Kids are so F-ing Stupid these days!!!! Your friend is a moron for doing a cycle at 16.

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You think that's me. How cute.

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So.... he wants to know wat should he take next to get bigger? he dont want to use needles

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So.... he wants to know wat should he take next to get bigger?Food

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that was meant for kronik guy not u

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So.... he wants to know wat should he take next to get bigger? he dont want to use needlesI hope you find your way to the door asap bud

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well u guys have been helpful...

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bahaha, what a hoot. and all this time fit2bold I thought that was you in the av.....lmao smh, you let the cat out of the bag bro .

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that was meant for kronik guy not uKronik is much smarter regardless. Not always about size.

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well u guys have been helpful...go elsewhere to other forums, we dont help kids use aas here but I have to ask did you even run any kind of.pct?

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bahaha, what a hoot. and all this time fit2bold I thought that was you in the av.....lmao smh, you let the cat out of the bag bro .That was fit2bold in his early days in the '50s....back then he was fit2byoung

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bahaha, what a hoot. and all this time fit2bold I thought that was you in the av.....lmao smh, you let the cat out of the bag bro .Sorry I fooled you. Quite a bit bigger than that been lifting over 30 years.

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go elsewhere to other forums, we dont help kids use aas here but I have to ask did you even run any kind of.pct?X2, but Merry Xmas anyway.

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I can't wait until Xmas is over so kelkel can have his motivational calves as his avatar again..........orrrr, wait.....is that back in black?? Now I'm confused

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Thanks Chad and all the best to you as well. Lets make it a BIG 2014!

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I can't wait until Xmas is over so kelkel can have his motivational calves as his avatar again..........orrrr, wait.....is that back in black?? Now I'm confusedMine are tooth pics.

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Originally Posted by powerlifter198 These comments make me LMFAO. Oh yes, because being big is the only criteria of a well run cycle. Why worry about the effects on his neuroendocrine system, the likelihood of severe depression or mood disorders later on, erectile dysfunction, the possibility of DVTs or PAD, prostate dysfunction, and many other possible outcomes.

Yup, screw his long term health. What does that matter any way.

I swear, kids these days don't hear the shit coming out of their mouth and are so self absorbed its disgusting.

Ban this fool. We don't need this kind of crap here. Go over to the other garbage forums where this kind of discussion belongs.

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He has a thread in the members pics section looks like the same guy. This guy is to young to be here

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He has a thread in the members pics section looks like the same guy. This guy is to young to be hereagree, its the same.guy I noticed that in the pics he has up before. really childish ways, I hope he takes the advice and stops what he is doing.

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Mass cycle, need opinions

Ok so for my next cycle, i want to put out the basics and get peoples opinions,

16 weeks based around test e the whole way through, 750 mg a week for the first 12 weeks, 500 the last 4 weeks so it's not such a drop when its over, but on top of this, for the first 4 weeks i'llstack anadrol , and for the 6 weeks following i'll run 300mg a week of tren e

Clomid nolva for pct.

I've got my doses all sorted for everything, but because this will be the heaviest stack ive done yet, i thought it couldnt hurt to put it out there and ask. just want some opinions on the cycle itself, and if anyone has any thoughts on it i. General.

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Merry Christmas !!!

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Merry Christmas everyone ! I wished for more muscle gainz !
What did you wish for from Santa ?

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Merry Christmas, buddy.

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Merry Christmas back to you smile.. hope its a good one.

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Merry christmas. My daughter came home for the holidays. That's all I wanted so I got my gift

Hope yours is good as well.

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