stronger..

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Need some advice. I'm sick of doin 4 ccs of test e a week to get my 1000 .. pip is getting to b redic.. what to do? Need stronger then a 250 e?

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To cut pip cut with stierle oil or B12.

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To cut pip cut with stierle oil or B12.Been using a hair dryer or boiled n hot water to lessen the pip but still doesn't work to well when I'm injecting 4 ccs a week lol ill try the b12 or a stronger e. Thanks brother

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Bro if you use a higher mg will only make pip worse.You just have a high BA content in your test.This is wat is causing the pip not the volume.

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Aight. B12 it is. ThAnks a lot man. Email me, have a question for u

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If to much BA is added to gear could you "vent" it by using a large syrine gauge or emptying the oil out, heating it and refiltering and vialing? in short can you evaporate BA out of gear?

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If to much BA is added to gear could you "vent" it by using a large syrine gauge or emptying the oil out, heating it and refiltering and vialing? in short can you evaporate BA out of gear?The boiling point of BA is 205?C / 401?F. You would probably destroy the TestE at that high a temp.

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The boiling point of BA is 205?C / 401?F. You would probably destroy the TestE at that high a temp.I just messaged u steve

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The boiling point of BA is 205?C / 401?F. You would probably destroy the TestE at that high a temp.I dont think you have to boil alcohol to evaporate it. kinda like none of the water that makes clouds ever reached boiling. I think if you just left it open then it would evaporate out and then refilter and put in vials.

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I dont think you have to boil alcohol to evaporate it. kinda like none of the water that makes clouds ever reached boiling. I think if you just left it open then it would evaporate out and then refilter and put in vials.I don't know the answer to that, neither would I recommend leaving gear out exposed to the air. A more simple approach would be to add sterile oil guaranteeing that you reduce the concentration of BA in the total volume. Or as suggested above cut with B12.

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I don't know the answer to that, neither would I recommend leaving gear out exposed to the air. A more simple approach would be to add sterile oil guaranteeing that you reduce the concentration of BA in the total volume. Or as suggested above cut with B12.if you add oil you're lowering the mg of gear per mL. and considering 2%BA is okay and say 3% is noticably different as far as PIP then thats a lot of oil to lower the BA by 1%

and as far as it being exposed to air thats why you would refilter it

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if you add oil you're lowering the mg of gear per mL. and considering 2%BA is okay and say 3% is noticably different as far as PIP then thats a lot of oil to lower the BA by 1%

and as far as it being exposed to air thats why you would refilter it

What about water in the air or other contaminants, Its really not a good idea and in my 12 years experience of home brewing I have never heard anything like it. Adding sterile oil is a lot safer and works 100%

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literally to decrease the amount of BA by 2%, say from 4% to 2% you would need to add the entire amount of total gear, in mL of oil. aka say you have 2 vials of test 250, you would end up with 4 vials of test 125. So unless you want to inject twice the amount of gear then that doesn't make sense to me. And as far as water and other contaminants im not sure what you're talking about. You're exposing the gear to the exact same environment as when you make any other home brew..

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literally to decrease the amount of BA by 2%, say from 4% to 2% you would need to add the entire amount of total gear, in mL of oil. aka say you have 2 vials of test 250, you would end up with 4 vials of test 125. So unless you want to inject twice the amount of gear then that doesn't make sense to me. And as far as water and other contaminants im not sure what you're talking about. You're exposing the gear to the exact same environment as when you make any other home brew..So? twice as much oil zero pain is better than being cramped up for a few days. Also when you make gear you do not leave it for hours exposed to the air and dust and other crap floating around the air, Not to mention in my opinion I don't think your idea would even work at all.

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If you're getting significant PIP from test E (especially at standard concentration), it is because your gear is crap. Find a better source.

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what lab are you using? i cant see how the pip is so bad at that mg/ml if it was brewed with traditional method

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what lab are you using? i cant see how the pip is so bad at that mg/ml if it was brewed with traditional methodMessage me & ill tell u the lab

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But what happened to ***************.com???

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S4 during cycle.

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In the description of S4 it is compared to dbol . Does this mean that it can be used to kick start a cycle or are sarms not good for during cycle use.

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Wierd things happening late into first cycle of test.C..

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Hi guys, firstly i would like to of course say hello to everyone..
This is how it started, i used to be an average guy, blah blah shit happened bad things and ended up dropping test levels through depression, 2 months ago i was at a terrible point, eating hardly any more than 1500 Cals a day if lucky and weighing only 9.6 stone at the age of 20 (Nearly 21) -being 5'11" and had absolutely no apatite or motivation, couldn't lift at the gym due to feeling so lethargic, tried everything but nothing seemed to work.

So, although i know its not recommended im too young and everything, but to me, nothing in the slightest would work, i started training but couldn't lift due to having no strength or motivation, i wasn't building any muscle because of having no motivation or strength and a poor diet, so it was a vicious circle, i decided to try a different approach, with the thought being, if you never try something you wont know, now i know Ive totally ruined chances of natural size gains because of using so young, but please, i have made the decision, to improve my quality of life (Which by the way was pretty awful, always ill ect) and for that i have no regrets, so would appreciate support and not telling me to stop for being too young, thanks in advanced guys!

So here it is, i started with some Test Cypionate (Cypionax 200ml-200MG), which is from someone in the family, i know its 100% Legit, as he gets them himself on holiday and uses..
After getting over my phobia of needles, i actually started to enjoy injecting, so i went for 100MG Test Cyp 3 times a week (Mon-Wed-Fri) and a 100MG of Deca on the Sunday (I have dropped after 3 weeks after realizing it would be totally wasted on a first cycle).
The results for myself were great, not gains, but life! I instantly felt revitalized after only 4-5 days the best in about 3 years, sleep improved, mood improved, sex drive improved, confidence, you name it it was there, it allowed me to actually eat without being sick and with that i redesigned my diet, consisting of as much protein i could get through at work, 5 smaller meals with lots of carbs and any protein i could find, 2 weight gainer shakes a day, and 2 Pints of full fat milk (Bulking as much as poss).
(At week 3 when i dropped the Deca, i decided to up the Test to 1.33ML (Mon-Wed-Fri) so it would be roughly just under 400MG a week).

Now this worked brilliant at first, everything about me improved, training, diet, calorie intake, i went up by over a stone within 5 weeks, and almost all seemed solid, no flab, no gut, just pure muscle and all my forearms and shoulders ect started hardening like mad, got to just over 11 Stone, really chuffed, and then i got the flu..

I had to spend 1 week off work and training, had no appetite even shakes that should have been my food were being sicked up, nothing worked, yet i remained 11 Stone.
I have now been on the Test for 7 weeks nearly, and am totally bamboozled, after the illness, my training has been awful, i have no energy at all in the gym, in fact i have started falling asleep at work in the day, leaning over counters ect, (Still getting 8 hours sleep a night) my diet i am struggling with, has dropped down again and im stuggling to put much over 2300 Cals a day in, if i start pushing that then i start throwing up or at least struggle to keep it all down, my weight has not budged of course from the 11 stone, yet once again, vicious circle, i have no energy to train, no appetite and so i will not grow, but the weird thing is i actually feel worse than before my cycle, at first it helped me no end! I'm literally stuck, and its been nearly 2 weeks now since no gains, my head hurts, i have to drink gallons of water a day, im constantly in a foul mood, not even irritable like the test made me at first, i cant stand anything but silence, anyone wants to even talk and i just want to get up and go, the sight or thought of food makes me feel sick, im falling asleep in the day, its total madness.

All Ive heard about from day 1 is Test.C is long ester, you wont feel max effect until till week 5-6-7, but when you do, its unreal, weights get light, you can put more food away, you'll feel amazing, trust me you'll know..
Yet i feel awful and im nearly on week 7, im stuck were i am, im starting to increase weight on my bars slowly again and it gives me little boosts, but they don't last?

I'm not using anything but the test ATM, not too sure what PCT will be using, have Nolva and Clomid to hand but every single person advises different so im unsure, tried to get HCG from day 1 but struggled, might be able to get some to throw in the last few weeks of the cycle to try bring things back to life if you get me..
So far no bad side effects, Gyno ect, i have been congratulated by older AS users i know for handling the moods ect so well, and they think its down to smaller consistent doses, so ill keep that up..
Hell the only way i can tell im on cycle is the constant sex thoughts (not much more than normal hahah) and the spots developing all over my shoulders, that really is the only way you can tell!

Sorry to write a whole book and biography but i really would appreciate peoples opinions on the extreme plummet of progress, lack of motivation ect and why im not feeling this famous "Kick" still after all this time, when the gear is 100% Legit! and i wanted everyone to know and understand the whole story before i asked, so i didn't seem like a silly young chav that just comes on knowing nothing and sprouting shit about lack of 200lbs gains in 2 weeks init..

If anyone could kindly make any suggestions, i would really appreciate it.
Thanks and hope you all had a good Christmas, Sam.

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Dam bro lets keep it short and too the point.Novels put me too sleep LOL

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Hahahah sorry bro will do from now on, but being young i had to explain the whole situation or people would just jump on saying your too young, inexperienced ect..
Only one way to get experience, so id rather just practice things as safely as i can and see how i go, only running for 12 weeks anyway, which is why any advice on the latest madness would be appreciated, can be short and sweet!

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How is anything you've done make you believe it's safe? Did you ever think to get blood work prior to embarking on a horribly designed cycle at 20 years old? Everyone thinks you can just start taking test and all your problems go away, when in fact you just bring in more problems.

The fact you never got blood work, you're injecting a long ester 3x per week, you added 100mg of Deca once a week, for what reason I have no idea and you're not using an AI just shows that you didn't do your research.

I don't understand why so many young people think it's ok to experiment with their hormones just to gain experience and then they wonder why their 20's are miserable, filled with problems.

Your e2 is most likely elevated, you need to stop what you're doing, get on a PCT and get blood work soon after.

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I agree with what your saying, but its hard when everyone you speak to says different things!
No i did not have blood work done, due to not having any idea about were to safely get it done that i could trust, ect!
However i was told by my doctor when i was signed off work, that while checking my blood thoroughly my test levels did seem quite low for my age, but admittedly that was about 6 months ago!

With regards to both the lack of AI, and the Deca for the first few weeks, was because before i knew you could find all this on the internet, i was taking the advice of bodybuilders who have competed in competitions for years, a few actually hold records, who seemed to tell me all this was the best way to go about it, obviously when i found all this info on the web it made me unsure which is why i posted to here in the first place!

The long ester 3 X a week, was simply because since i split to 3 a week instead of 2, surely the T levels will be more consistent, and i have been finding that i get little or no sides since, but am of course open to your suggestions!

Because to me it wasn't just experimenting, it helped with so many issues that nothing else did, we've all started out somewhere once, and im sure lots of people on here started younger than me, im not saying its right, but its true!

Is there no way i can save it this far in? I'm not going against what your saying just curious if i can do anything to stop the last 7 weeks of work being wasted!

Thanks for your advice anyway, Sam

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Kalpa still G2G??

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Hey, I was running sciroxx, and was very strong stuff, loved it, but now I'm thinking switch over Kalpa... why??
Because sciroxx can't supply me the whole cycle, and I found a source who has everything I need for the cycle. But he only has Kalpa so I was searching for some more info and I found out it seems its G2G but gives some strong PIP even enanthate . for my experience, PIP is always a bad sign, if its normal dosed Enanthate ester, it should not give any PIP. I saw photos on their main page, and the lab seems to be veery professional, but who know if its true... can someone update me about their products? do they still come in ugly brown vials? I always hated brown vials.
thanks

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I used Kalpa with my last cycle. I did get some PIP but I was using Test Prop so that's to be expected. I had pretty decent results with their Prop. I didn't feel anything from their Var though and wouldn't buy that again.

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thanks pete,... I'm interrested in their test enanthate tren enanthate and masteron enanthate... why enanthate?? because of the low PIP and higher concentration (less pins) and almost better value and better plasma peak. Also interested in dianabol , clenbuterol , T3 and aromasin . the prices are veeery good in comparision with sciroxx. wonder if quality is at the same level

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Have you run Tren before??? If not then go with Tren Ace because it will only stay in your system for a few days so if you're having sides and you have to abort they will only last a few days vs. a few weeks. My next go with tren I will prob. do Tren E as the sides I got from Tren on this current cycle were very minimal. The only real issue I've had is that I'm def. more moody on Tren and a bit angry.

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New to the forum and need cycle advise

 

Hi everyone, just wanted to introduce myself and ask about a cycle that I want to start(it is my first steroid cycle). I'm 22, currently 160lbs and 5'11, with a body fat of around 12%. I want to start with a Test prop Stack, 1-100mg shot every other day

On cycle
Armindex .25mg every other day

Pct
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Let me know what you think, I've been researching a lot. Thanks

Also wanted to add that it is going to be an 8 week cycle,

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what are your goals and what do you eat in a typical day? your light for your height which tells me your diet may be lacking

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You need to build a foundation naturally because at your stats your a long way away from cycling IMHO. Your to young for shutting down your natural t and also your way to light. Its obvious you need to concentrate on your diet and training routine because your not doing either right. Research diets and learn hoe to really stimulate muscle tissue so it grows, give this another 2 yrs and see how much you have done naturally n consider taking some thing but this isn't the right time no matter who tells you it is

I want to get to around 180lbs. I eat about 2000 calories a day and am on a low carb diet to try and cut up . I also eat very clean, no snacks just fruits and vegetables aside from main meals that mostly consist of high protein low fat and low carbs. I do work out almost everyday so I'm always burning a lot of calories. And Thanks man I really appreciate the quick response!

I've worked out for the past 4 years almost everyday and I consider myself to be at a plateau that I can't get over. My current bench max is 250 and have been stuck here for months. Maybe because I only weight 160 and can't gain anymore weight is the reason for me plateauing. I have talked to several bodybuilders at the gym and this cycle is what they suggested.

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You need to eat to gain. Low carbs isn't the way forward. Add 500-1000cals a day. If you don't eat, you won't grow, AAS or not.

Read theses

***Cycles going wrong for the young***

The young and Steroids

And then visit our nutrition forum and read this

***Dieting 101: Lean Bulking***

And start a thread in that forum with your plan.

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Your plateau is self indused bro.Your diet is way out of wack.Aas isn't your answer for reasons Marcus discussed.Hit the diet section post your diet with macros.These guys will show you how to pack it on the safe way.Good luck!

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I've worked out for the past 4 years almost everyday and I consider myself to be at a plateau that I can't get over. My current bench max is 250 and have been stuck here for months. Maybe because I only weight 160 and can't gain anymore weight is the reason for me plateauing. I have talked to several bodybuilders at the gym and this cycle is what they suggested.Like I've said you aren't training hard enough or eating to gain. Concentrate on these two areas for the next 2 yrs and what ever you do don't shut down your natural test

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A-sin or A-sin/nolva for dbol gyno prevention

Sup guys, quick question. Had shoulder surgery two months ago and will be starting a cycle in approx. 2 more months when I'm back to 100%. My question... Cycle laid out at the moment is as follows.

Wk 1-10: sus250 / 1ml(250mg) e3.5d
wk 1-4: dbol 25mg ED
Wk 1-4: Aromasin 25mg ED
Wk 5-10: Aromasin 12.mg ED (adjusting if neccessary)

PCT starting 18 days after last sus250 pin
Nolva: 40/20/20/20
Clomid: 75/50/50/50

Now for my question...
Assuming my bodyfat is ~10% when I start my cycle, do you guys think 25mg of Aromasin will be sufficient at keeping gyno symptoms at bay or would it be wise to add 20mg of nolva ontop of the aromasin for the 4 weeks of dbol. I've had non-AAS induced gyno that I had removed surgically, however I believe that I need a revision as not enough tissue was taken out, so if I do get a gyno flare-up on cycle it wont be the end of the world as more than likely I'm getting a second surgery. I will say this is my first cycle, and I understand the general rule of thumb is to run with test only, however I've seen many recommend, even those on this site, that adding an oral such as dbol at a lower dose is acceptable for a first cycle as well as long as you understand the risks associated with each compound and how to prevent side effects. I've been researching AAS and everything that goes hand in hand with it for about 2 years now so I'm very well versed on PCT, AAS profiles, and on cycle preventative measures. Also my diet is solid as I write everything I eat down into a journal as well as weigh out all of my food and record the macros of each meal/snack. I also have all of my ancillaries purchased and sitting in a lockbox waiting for the day. I have not gotten the dbol yet as I'm still on the fence with it. I do, however, already have the sus250.

Specs
Age:23
Years training: 3
Ht/Wt: 6' 200lbs
BF: ~15% (BF will be under 10% by the time I start)

I also understand that you should wait til 25 to start AAS, and I've thought long and hard about this, however the gym is the only thing I have going for me and the only thing I care about so I've decided to take my training to the next level a bit earlier than recommended and I'm fully aware of the risks associated with such a decision. I should also note that I had my first fitness modeling photo shoot set up for October 2013, however I tore my labrum and was unable to make that happen so it was rescheduled for this upcoming spring. I am also not a typical gym rat, training is not a hobby for me, it is my life and my only passion. Thanks for taking the time to read this, it is quite long haha. Appreciate any feedback that is given, and I hope everyone is having an awesome holiday.

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