Quitted TRT 7 weeks ago, getting blood work, should I keep taking arimidex?

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Long story short, after 9 month of self-TRT who didn't seems to really improve symptoms despite perfect bloodwork, I decided to quit. I had test level of 350-450 before starting, but a lot of symptoms similar to low test. Pretty much every plants/product who lowered prolactin cured my symptoms by 85% pre TRT, but I alway stopped taking them because they acted like strong diuretic, making me flat and slighty dehydrated (which is a dumb way to stop, now that I think about it.)

9 month later, on trt, my symptoms are even worse (energy and libido), unless I let estrogen creep back up than I have some energy but end up with puffy nips and still weak libido(which I think comes from a raise in serotonin). those plants who uses to work don't anymore. So I decided to stop cold turkey, no pct ( gonna get chit for that) for 7-8 weeks, get blood work and see from there what should I do.

I don't really feel better since quitting TRT, but not that much worse too. thing is I seem to keep aromatizing a lot ( water retention, severe acne, puffy nipples), and arimidex seems to get that down, but do kinda make me feel like chit evertime I take it.

My question is, should I stop taking arimidex before blood work to not screw result or should I keep taking it if I see symptoms?

I'm gonna test for Test, free test, lh, fsh, e2, prolactin, thyroid.

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hmm....how far apart were your injections?

also, if u were on for 9 months you are gonna need awhile before you test your shiit to get a normal reading.

And self TRT? Why would you do that? All you have to do if poke around and make more phone calls to find a willing doc. Be willing to drive and hour too, its your hormones your talking about and i dont care how long you hang on these boards, you still cant interpret bloodwork accurately. Maybe a dumb doctor couldnt eather, but if you may learn something from him. There have been times where a certain doctor wasn't smarter than me, but he knew maybe one thing i didnt. It gave me something else to factor in. You need a professional's opinion

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actually for 2 years I went from doc to endricologist to doc, never found nobody who wanted to help. I had enough to feel like chit and wanted to try.

Was doing e4d injection.

What do you mean in gonna need awhile before you test you chit to get a normal reading? You mean to recover, or that I might still have exogenous test inside my blood who haven't yet clear out from prolonged use?

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Vitamin D low, how much should I take per day?

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I had posted a while back that the Dr. prescribed me 50,000 iu's twice per week, but for 8 pills @ 30.00 I think that's a bit much. I had 5000 iu pills now and opted not to get the prescrip stuff this time. Can I just take 2 of the 5k iu's of the D3 ED? I know it's not 100,000 total for the week, but I thought the D3 was more potent so that's why I ask.

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Your 50K Drisdol D2's don't numerically convert to the same amount of D3. Yes, you can take 10K D3 per day if you know your level is low. Always best to start lower and titrate up based on BW though. Remember to take these with a large meal as they are fat soluble and absorb better that way. D is actually a hormone and one of the most important ones out there. It's in every cell in your body. Just don't overdo it as it can be toxic. Remember, fat soluble, not water soluble.

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Ok great, thanks for that info. I was already taking 5k iu's a day, and it still came back low.. I don't really understand why. Does doing a lot of cardio by chance flush it out or something weird?

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Open Now! which compounds in the poll, are best for fat loss after tren. If tren is the best Androgenic fat burner, and test is a basic compound already used, which comes next???

Funny, your first cycle had multiple compounds. What exactly is your question here? ,ore to the point. Why do you think steroids are magic?

No, Andrea's beginner cycle = test + 1 of those compounds, and clen or dbol or both, depending if someone has to put on mass, or get lean or both

Most peoples Beginner cycle = test Andreas beginner cycle = test + var + d'bol + mast + proviron + halo

because those compounds do not come up with prolactine issues, and not even estro. the worst that could happen is DHT related problems, but you have them actually in test. Test and diet might be...

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how often should I be training on this cycle layout ?

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Hi fellows
Have a basic question that im conflicted on.

How much should I really be lifting?

Now context:

Current cycle
Wk 1-12 Test E 900mg
Wk 1-11 Deca 600 mg
Wk 1-4 Dbol 50mg/day
Wk 13-20 Test E 300mg
Wk 13-20 Tren A 50-100/day

on week 5 now.

Im 33 years young, 6ft, 260, Diet is great and I get it changed weekly from a Fit Pro friend ( not looking to get into diet talk here)

Right now every body part a once a week and Arms 2-3 times a week (because I want do arms that much thats why

My intent is to grow grow grow I know I?m stating the obvious. But don?t want to plateau. looking to shake it and keep it fresh

Thoughts?

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A study in japan says that a person only needs 48 hours rest between workouts.
they studied bicep work outs for six months but these were natty body builders
I too am interested to know how often one should rest on a cycle

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cool input Jsanman
Arnold Schwarzenegger - Modern Bodybuilding Encyclopedia says 48 hours for biceps and others parts longer like legs.
so thats sounds about right. based off my own experience its true for me. thus why I hit them 3 times a week.

but really want to know what big guys ( not small guys that have read) but what big guys do and think.

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If I worked any muscle other than abs 3 times a week there wouldn't be much left of me. I would shrivel up like a raisin

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Originally Posted by innerg If you are able to train a body part 3 times a week I don't think that muscle is getting trained hard enough to grow. If it is getting trained hard enough, than it is not enough time to repair and grow.

Let me add, I'm not a giant but 5"11 220 right now is not tiny IMO and I continually grow working everything once a week. I do work calves and abs twice a week.

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Well.... Idunno what you consider big..... I'm 6'1 264 and work everything out once a week.

Maybe that's why I'm still kinda small :-/

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Originally Posted by Hazard Well.... Idunno what you consider big..... I'm 6'1 264 and work everything out once a week.

Maybe that's why I'm still kinda small :-/

Haha your not small hazard the Humble.
I just read stuff and wonder about the hard once a week and light once a week method

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Originally Posted by Hazard Well.... Idunno what you consider big..... I'm 6'1 264 and work everything out once a week.

Maybe that's why I'm still kinda small :-/

Do you even lift bro? Haha

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Originally Posted by innerg
Haha your not small hazard the Humble.
I just read stuff and wonder about the hard once a week and light once a week methodWhen I lift..... Atleast currently..... I shoot for absolute failure. Marcus has a great thread in the lounge regarding this. If you are reaching total failure..... U can't workout two days later and doit again.

Just curious.... What's ur bf% and what do your arms measure? What kind of improvements have u seen using this method. It's atleast worth a discussion.....

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Originally Posted by Hazard
When I lift..... Atleast currently..... I shoot for absolute failure. Marcus has a great thread in the lounge regarding this. If you are reaching total failure..... U can't workout two days later and doit again.

Just curious.... What's ur bf% and what do your arms measure? What kind of improvements have u seen using this method. It's atleast worth a discussion.....

Body fat is about 17% right now.
Arms are 18.5 flexed.

I truly follow Ct Fletcher's advice about arms. For me it's not augment. I see his stuff and have spoke to him about it its simple Theres The proof and theres the pudding. It works.

Many hate on him but who cares. Like I said. Pudding and proof.

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Originally Posted by innerg
Body fat is about 17% right now.
Arms are 18.5 flexed.

I truly follow Ct Fletcher's advice about arms. For me it's not augment. I see his stuff and have spoke to him about it its simple Theres The proof and theres the pudding. It works.

Many hate on him but who cares. Like I said. Pudding and proof.

I'm not arguing..... Everyone is different so there is no one method for all. If its giving you results then keep doing it.

Just don't be scared to switch it up every once in a while. I've used a few different training techniques and I've found one that really has made vast improvements for me. I can't train like this for months and months on end so every now and then ill switch it up.

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NOT DOING SOURCE CHECKS......

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Originally Posted by Hazard
I'm not arguing..... Everyone is different so there is no one method for all. If its giving you results then keep doing it.

Just don't be scared to switch it up every once in a while. I've used a few different training techniques and I've found one that really has made vast improvements for me. I can't train like this for months and months on end so every now and then ill switch it up.

Ya for sure. I do change it up and keep it fresh. I'm way cool with blasting arms once a week as well. Used to for years. I just see full volume and growth so I like it.
Just wondering about the rest of my body. If I should hit them more when on cycle.

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Originally Posted by innerg
Ya for sure. I do change it up and keep it fresh. I'm way cool with blasting arms once a week as well. Used to for years. I just see full volume and growth so I like it.
Just wondering about the rest of my body. If I should hit them more when on cycle.I personally don't hit anything more than once but again..... I try to hit true positive failure and breakdown the deepest fibers of muscle. I'm often sore a few days later.

That's my take on it..... See what others say. I did have a friend that trained legs twice a week and swore they needed to be destroyed that often.

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I like training things twice a week with a three day on one day off. also power days for your first three days then hypertrophy for the next three but genetics play a big role on how you grow an what works for your body. took me years to figure out what works for my body like hamstrings need 8 sets of a good amount of weight an high reps other wise I can't get them to grow same with my lats quads take heavy ass weight with no more then 8 reps each persons a little different then the next good luck.

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